Update: June 15, 2008: Here is the original first paragraph of this post:
“There’s a group of dissatisfied Democrats - especially women - who feel that Barack Obama does not speak for them. They’ve named their group the PUMAs - for “Party Unity My Ass.” They even have a website.”
The owner of the website referenced above, Pumas4Change, has notified me that my information is incorrect. Upon further research, I found that to be true. So my apologies to Puma4Change for incorrectly identifying it as “the” PUMA website. You didn’t start the PUMA movement. You were just writing about it.
So who started PUMA? I don’t know. Don’t really care either. Here is another blog - PUMAPAC that has information about the movement. (Thanks to Pumas4Change for pointing me towards that blog). (End of 6/15/08 update).
My only question is: Why aren’t there more PUMAs? I can’t imagine that anyone who isn’t totally brainwashed by being in the Democratic party for too long wouldn’t question Barack Obama as a choice for POTUS. Are there truly that many people who are so easily swayed by a good looking smooth talker?
I am fortunate in that I have the advantage of never associating myself with one political party or the other. I’ve always studied the candidates and voted based on the candidate - not the candidate’s party affiliation. That enables me to look at the candidates more objectively than most people. I feel some empathy for the folks who have been so connected to one party or the other that they are unable to look at the situation objectively. We have all these Democrats who can’t allow themselves the freedom to vote objectively. In their own minds, they can only vote for Obama - simply because he’s the Democratic Party’s candidate.
So congratulations, all you PUMA folks. You are the people who have the courage to go against the grain of the Democratic party and against the overwhelming media bias. Party Unity My Ass. I like it.
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June 14th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Instead of PUMA lets call it Cut off Your Nose to Spite Your Faced. PUMA is a place for McBushites to attempt to spilt Dems. So we should vote for McBush because you are upset that Clinton lost. Yes lets vote for a man who will leave more soldiers to die in Iraq and not care for them if they get home because your mad. Yes lets vote for a man who will make paper hats out of Roe v. Wade because your mad. Yes lets vote for a man who believes that Bush economics work and will extend and add more tax cuts for the wealthy because you are mad. Lets vote for more people who will subvert the enviroment and kow-tow to Oil. Hillary Clinton rejected that notion and I would hope that her followers would reject it as well. This election is too important with too many lives and livelihoods at stake to chose based upon PUMA silliness. My thought is that the founder of PUMA never planned to vote for Hillary or Obama. Can we really afford John McBush. John McBush will keep us in Iraq Indefintely. He believes as does Bush that it is a righteous cause. Obama suggests shifting our focus onto Afghanistan where the people that acutally perpetrated 9/11 actually reside. I am not sure what all this experience crap is about. If your wrong like John McBush, it doesn’t matter how long you have been wrong. Being wrong a long time doesn’t equate with desirable experience
June 14th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
How can I help. I watched as every media talking head hawked Obama and trashed Clinton. They must be afraid that we might have 8 years of prosperity like with Bill.
How can I help
June 14th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
BT9 - you came to the wrong place if you expect any sympathy for your views. You are parroting the typical Democratic party line on the issues. Why don’t you really LEARN what you’re talking about before you just mimic what the Dems tell you to think. Think for yourself, for a change.
By the way “your” is a possessive pronoun. “You’re” is the contraction for the words “you” and “are.” “Let’s” is the contraction for “let us.” If English is your language, learn to use it correctly.
An Obama presidency would be disastrous.
June 15th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Hello. I own the blog you’ve referenced here, and I didn’t originate the PUMA name or ideas. I’ve written to you privately about this, but you refuse to listen. If you want to know who is benefitting from this PUMA thing, try going to http://blog.pumapac.org. They are the ones monetizing this, not me. I’m just out for a fair discussion of what we see as the issues.
June 15th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
TMS: I haven’t refused to listen to you. I’ve never heard from you. A “fair discussion” is exactly what is needed.
June 15th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
In checking, I found the email from Pumas4Change in my spam folder. I have replied - and I will make the necessary corrections to the post. Thanks!
June 15th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Why would anyone in his right mind vote for an ego maniac who was in the Senate for less than one year when he decided to run for President?
We have had an incompetent Republican President for over seven years. Why replace him with an incompetent Democratic President?
When that phone Rings at 0300 AM, the President cannot vote “present”. And the Rev. Wright wil not be there to advise him.
At least McCain is qualified to be President. BHO ain’t.
Of course, if BHO looses this elction the media wil call all of us who did not vote for him “Racist”. They wil not even consider his lack of experience and character as the reason we did not vote for him.
June 25th, 2008 at 6:20 am
This site is a joke…there are so many UN yes Uninformed people on here.
So while you’re sitting around and not doing your housework, maybe you should pony up some more money for Billary to pay off her debt.
She’s laughing all the way to the bank…
By the way “Party Unity My Ass” is not doing anything good for your so-called cause.
Can I have some cookies when you’re finished baking?
June 25th, 2008 at 7:59 am
So nice of you to be concerned about my housework, Earl. Maybe you should do a little homework while you’re doing your own housework. I would never give Billary - or any Democrat - a penny of my money. Go do your childish blabbing elsewhere.
June 27th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
June 30th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
I am a black former lifetime Democrat. I was
incensed at how my chosen candidate, Hillary was treated during the presidential primaries. I was appalled at how the “empty-suit” inexperienced Obama has been given a free pass by the media and the DNC. For me, this is no longer about the Democratic party. It is about the 18 million Hillary voters who have been disenfranchised and pushed aside for a political novice who is unknown and questionable when it comes to his credentials. How is it that someone with the breadth and depth of political and public service experience that Hillary has have to defer to this political rookie? For me to toe the DNC line ands support him for the sake of party unity?? NEVER!! It just does not feel right. This is about personal principle—standing up for them no matter the outcome. And sending a strong message to the DNC that we will not fall in line with the charade. I was happy to discover PUMA which expresses my setiments exactly.
June 30th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
I am a black former lifetime Democrat. I was
incensed at how my chosen candidate, Hillary was treated during the presidential primaries. I was appalled at how the “empty-suit” inexperienced Obama has been given a free pass by the media and the DNC. For me, this is no longer about the Democratic party. It is about the 18 million Hillary voters who have been disenfranchised and pushed aside for a political novice who is unknown and questionable when it comes to his credentials. How is it that someone with the breadth and depth of political and public service experience that Hillary has have to defer to this political rookie? For me to toe the DNC line ands support him for the sake of party unity?? NEVER!! It just does not feel right. This is about personal principle—standing up for them no matter the outcome. And sending a strong message to the DNC that we will not fall in line with the charade. I was happy to discover PUMA which expresses my sentiments exactly.
July 1st, 2008 at 7:12 am
So, you’re willing to sacrifice women’s reproductive rights, the balance of the Supreme Court, health care, the safety of our troops because you’re bitter about who the nominee is? Get over it- it’s ridiculous. If you really wanted change, you’d vote for Nader or Barr instead of the anti-abortion, pro-war candidate of the Republican party.
July 1st, 2008 at 7:39 am
“Women’s Reproductive Rights” - in other words, the right to kill their babies - up to and even immediately after birth. That’s what Obama wants to ensure. John McCain will be MUCH more careful about the safety for our troops because he’s actually got a clue about what war is all about. Obama will ensure more American deaths and more terrorism here and abroad because with his attitude, the whole world will know that America isn’t willing to fight for anything. Come on over and do whatever you want - we don’t care enough about anything to fight for it. Anti-abortion simply means anti-murder. NO ONE is pro war - except for perhaps the militant Islam folks. However, there ARE things worth fighting for - and fighting against terrorism is one of them.
July 27th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
THE PUMAS ARE TOTALLY JUSTIFIED …
1. Contrary to what Obamabots say …
Obama and Hillary were in a dead heat,
when the DNC pressured Hillary into not
only conceding, but campaigning for Obama.
2. Obama is once again in a dead heat, but now
with McCain, even though Obamabots act like
Obama has already won (like they did in the
primaries against Hillary). So, this means that
half of the Democrats, and all the Republicans
(3/4 of America) dIdn’t want Obama. Plus, he
didn’t even win the popular vote, and refused a
revote in Michigan and Florida.
3. Obama has the thinnest resume in politics, and
he won state legislature and Senator by
disqualifications of his opponents, not by earned
experience, or votes.
4. Obama’s one claim to fame is being a community
organizer, where he boasts of registering voters.
Then he took their votes away from them, by
disqualifying his opponents on technicalities, prior
to the election.
5. Obama’s mentor of 20 years, was an anti-American
racist … not to mention other unsavory associations.
6. Obama is simply buying the election, since he’s
good at fund raising … hardly a qualification to be
President of the United States.
7. The media never vetted Obama, and they are
giving him a free ride, plus more than twice the
print and air time as McCain, as they did against
Hillary.
8. 90% of blacks are voting for Obama, because he is
black, while the campaign gained ground by
accusing most opponents of racism.
9. Obamabots were, and are extremely nasty and sarcastic
towards Hillary supporters, as well as McCain supporters.
10. Pumas should be applauded for putting country before party …
especially a party that did not represent them, and a party
which highjacked the nomination for Obama.
August 30th, 2008 at 8:00 am
PUMA’s are republicans, because a true democrat would rather support their party than support someone who stands for everything we have opposed since 2000. So the name PUMA is actually quite uncessary because there is party unity, between PUMA and the republicans, and us real democrats.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:28 am
1. Hillary was mathematically eliminated. Obama clinched the seat with the required number of delegates to win, so quit whining about being pressured and such.
2. The only reason Obama is in a dead heat with McCain is because of ignorant, biased, unrealistic housewives like yourself vote for your gender rather than do actual research, and lo and behold when McBush announced an under-qualified, inadequate governor for a VP that just HAPPENED to be a woman, all the PUMA yahoos latched on to her.
3. Obama has plenty of experience, enough to know how fragmented and backwards things in Washington have become. The fact that he does not have a mile long track record of bad decisions and flip-flopping actually works in his favor, it gives McBush zero ammo to use against him.
4. Um, 2004 Keynote Speech? Remember that? Probably not, or you do and don’t want to admit to it.
Plus the fact that he is NOT famous for any incidents again works in his favor.
5. Lets see, Obama has had some unusual individuals around him, but how can you possibly justify Hillary sticking with Bill after he cheated on her not once but TWICE. The end result is that she appears to lust after power to the point that it outweighs any moral or ethical or personal standars.
6. So Obama being likable, affable, and able to rally people to a cause is not a good attribute for being a president?
7. I refuse to refute this claim on the sheer basis that your memory is so obviously selective that you’ve forgotten all about the media slamming given to both candidates during primary season.
8. And the Hillary camp claimed sexism, and yet that isn’t as bad as the former?
9. There are people who are nasty to others despite any political hang-ups or not. There are nasty, sarcastic, denegrating individuals in all camps. PUMA itself is a nasty sarcastic group, and yet Obama supporters get all the flak?
10. PUMA is nothing more than a kabal of dissapointed delusional and unrealistic housewives who are mad because their candidate lost the election fair and square. Rather than do research and realize the falicy of their political stance, like most fringe lunatic political groups they prefer to stand and shout slogans. If it means they leave the Dem. Party and vote for McOld, so be it, they are not needed or wanted for change, and in the coming months, many will see the folly that is McSenile- Stepford.
So go ahead, vote for McCain, and if he gets elected, I hope all of your children get drafted and sent to a warzone and die. Then you can realize the stupidity of your ways, of being near-sighted and not considering the future.
You do not truly care about the nation or its people, because if you did, you would realize the folly of PUMA, figure out that Obama wants to make the USA THE leader in all economic and human endeavours, and repair our tarnished image.
How about some real honesty from PUMA and the like? How about an admission that they are in fact either already bigoted, are housewives who have less political sense of a goat, or that each and every person who mocks the Obama campaign and would like to see it splinter is afraid of something: real change, real personal responsibility, and a new way of doing things.
September 3rd, 2008 at 1:36 pm
October 30th, 2008 at 10:30 am
Yes Taylor, there are nasty, sarcastic, denegrating people in every party and you are one of them. Your comment that you hope all of the PUMA’s children and drafted and die if one of the worst things I have read concerning this election. There will not be a draft again, our children go because they have a sense of pride for themselves and their country.
What gives you the right to say any democrat that doesn’t vote for a person that has no experience, has questionable associates for years, that we don’t know hardly anything about and the press is not helping us learn about, are bigoted, afraid of real ‘CHANGE’ (whatever that is!) and are “housewives with the political sense of a goat”?
A lot of Democrats,Republicans, and independents have had it with the mean, horrible things that the far left of the democratic party are saying. Grow up and may God forgive you (you probably don’t belive in him either or you would not be half as mean as you are).